thanks, everybody, around this table for the conversation. before we go, quick programming note. tomorrow on "today," former basketball star dennis rodman speaks out about what? yes, his fascinating trip to north korea, if you can believe it. also, for this week's press pass conversation, i sat down with popular author of "the secret of happy families," bruce filer. very good advice for those of us with kids at home. you can watch it at if it's sunday, it's meet the press.